Is Manny Pacquiao a "Fraud"? Or Just well managed?
70Is Manny Pacquiao a "fraud"?
Although Manny Pacquiao is unarguably
one of the faces of the boxing world today, in fact he's probably THE
face of modern day boxing, though is the Pacman a fake? Has he had
help getting to the position that he holds today amongst the sports
pound 4 pound elite? I'm not talking HGH (Human Growth Hormone), EPO
(Erythropoietin), Steroids, “A-Side Meth” or any other
performance enhancing drugs, just clever management and good (or
lucky) timing.
His second world title win was against
Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, a fighter appearing in the USA for just the 2nd
time in a 35 fight career. His only previous fight in the US was
against Edison Valencia Diaz who was 14-3 and his recent title
defences had come against fighters like Arnel Barotillo (25-10-3) and
Carlos Contreras (17-4-2). This isn't a hit at Pacquiao but
whenLedwaba faces soft touches coming in and then goes 3-4 after
facing Pacquiao with out ever making the Bantamweight limit again
it's fair to say he probably wasn't that great at the time or that
comfortable at the weight. Good timing maybe in taking a legitimate
looking champion away from home and beating him, though a fight that
looks less impressive looking back.
Manny Pacquiao v Juan Manuel Marquez
Of course his infamous “draw” with
Juan Manuel Marquez is another example of Pacquiao receiving some
“luck”. Marquez was dropped 3-times in the opening round of that
fight then boxed the socks of Pacquiao for almost every minute of the
fight with Pacquiao winning maybe 3 of the following 11 rounds. The
score of John Stewart's (115-110 in favour of Pacquiao) looks
somewhat questionable to say the least, with a 113-112 scoreline to
Pacquiao arguably being the only way you could have scored it to
Pacquiao, following the line of Burt Clements (who scored it 113-113
though only gave the opening round as a 10-7 not a 10-6 as I had it).
Though in all honest Marquez won, probably by 3 or 4 points, he lost
round 8 clearly but all the other rounds he came close to winning
were close and not clear.
The second fight I had closer than
the first, though again Marquez's skill with counter punches seemed
to be the telling factor. He was landing clean clear counter shots
time and time again the CompuBox Punchstats said it all, Marquez
threw 108 punches less but landed more. Impressively he landed at
around 34% to Pacquiao's 25%. The vast majority of the press felt
that Marquez had won the fight including places like Fightwriter,
Ring Magazine, ESPN, Yahoo Sports, Fight News, Top Rank TV and even
fighter Nonito Donaire (Pacquiao's fellow Filipino).
Due to
those two fights boxing fans have often demanded a 3rd
fight between the two though one that hasn't been forth coming and
has started to look like it'll never be happening. Marquez won the
majority of the rounds and had he not suffered the 4 knockdowns (3 in
the first fight and 1 in the second) he would have been 1-0-1 against
Pacquiao on paper and 2-0 in the minds of everyone who has watched
the fight.
Between the 2 Marquez fights Pacquiao lost to Erik
Morales. Though excuses have been made regarding Pacquiao needing to
do a blood test the night before the fight. The thing is that
Morales, who had to be in the lead going into the 12 had landed more
shots and at a better rate. Even after being told not to get
over-confident Morales switched to southpaw and waged war in one of
the most memorable rounds of recent boxing history and still Pacquiao
couldn't drop Morales. After this win for Morales he would go on a 4
fight losing streak, including 2 rematches with Pacquiao before
hanging up his gloves in 2007 (and making a subsequent return to the
sport in 2010). The 2 losses to Pacquiao were certainly against a
Morales that was on the decline, perhaps the Morales win was the
final last “Hurrah” for a great Mexican (who challenges Marcos
Maidana for the vacant WBA Light Welterweight title in the coming
months).
Though it's really his rise since 2008 that has made
Manny a star as he took titles in the Lightweight, Light Welterweight
(Ring and IBO) and Welterweight divisions and scored famous wins over
well known and respected opponents. Lets look at those actual reigns.
He beat David Diaz for the WBC Lightweight title, Diaz was
only a paper champion in all honesty and had been beaten by Erik
Morales (a very faded Erik Morales) in what would be Morales final
first before his retirement. Poor judging robbed Morales of his place
in history (of becoming the 1st Mexican to be a 4th
weight champion) and Diaz was a stationary target for Pacquiao who
landed at will on Diaz. Pacquiao landed well over twice as many shots
as Diaz and dominated from the opening bell. The problem wasn't
necessarily the opponent but what Pacquiao did afterwards, have gave
up the title and never came back to the division. Of course Manny
would choose instead to face Oscar De La Hoya in a multi-million
dollar fight. 19 months prior Oscar had given Mayweather a close run
split decision at Light Middleweight then choose to go to
Welterweight to try and tempt Mayweather into a rematch, Mayweather
had decided to retire and Pacquiao instead took up the offer.
Pacquiao dominated De La Hoya from the opening bell though De La Hoya
looked dead at the weight and was almost skeletal.
Two months
after Pacquiao had battered De La Hoya his old adversary Juan Manuel
Marquez had picked up the WBA “Super” and WBO Lightweight titles
and left the door very open to the much wanted trilogy fight. Instead
Pacquiao signed to face Ricky Hatton for the 140lbs Ring and IBO
titles. Hatton had been knocked out against Mayweather 17 months
earlier and had looked terrible against Juan Lazcano almost a year
prior to Pacquiao facing him. Although he had beaten Lazcano he had
been shaken by nothing punches and only had a solid win over Paul
Malignaggi since then, Malignaggi also a none puncher. Pacquiao would
drop Hatton twice in the opening round before stopping him in the
2nd. Yes whilst it was dominant Hatton wasn't the fighter
he had once been.
Since then he has faced “bigger men”
though they have often had some sort of disadvantages. Both Miguel
Cotto and Antonio Margarito were hindered by catchweights (in title
fights as well), each of the 3 men (including Joshua Clottey) were
being promoted by Top Rank (the same promotional company as Pacquiao)
and they were all slow stand in front of you types, a bit like David
Diaz. Worst of all weren't the catch weight stipulations, but the
recent form of all 3 men.
Miguel Cotto had gone 2-1 in his
previous 3, with a KO loss to Margarito, a paper title fight against
Britains Michael Jennings and a close fight with Joshua
Clottey.
Clottey, who effectively no showed against Pacquiao and
stood as a human punch bag had lost his previous fight to Cotto and
gone 5-2 (also losing to Margarito). He was incredibly average at
best.
Margarito though was the worst of the bunch. He'd not only
gone 4-2 in his previous 6, he's been knocked out badly by Shane
Mosley and fought just once in over 20 months. Many fans felt he
shouldn't have been fighting at all due to the illegal substance
found in his gloves prior to the Mosley fight.
Looking at his
record going back to the Diaz fight may look good on paper, though
all 5 fighters were tailor made for Pacquiao. They were slower than
him and effectively stood there taking shots. Cotto and Margarito did
have some success though not enough to really trouble Pacquiao that
much overall, though Pacquiao used his speed and ring smarts to
dominate the fighters. Instead of facing a skilled, or fast fighter
he has faced brawlers (and a shot to pieces De La Hoya).
Although
the much wanted fight with Mayweather is starting to look unlikely
the upcoming fight with Mosley is again against a slower fighter who
will look somewhat stationary in comparison to the speedy Pacquiao.
De La Hoya older and now Mosley is older, Maqruez is older as well.
Will Pacquiao face a skilled prime fighter? Or will he spend the rest
of his career facing limited brawlers that are slower and less
skilled than he? He's certainly being managed and matched against
slower fighters rather than as Bernard Hopkins put it
“Slick...fighters”. Has it been chance? Or has it been good
management to avoid a 3rd fight with Marquez, the
Mayweather bout falling through several times and no other slick
fighters since the Marquez rematch?
Has Pacquiao been over-hyped?
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He is better then anyone you put in front of him, with the exception of Floyd. Who would present a challenge.
Cotto (one of my favorite fighters) fight was fair as can be!
I unlike millions of people feel a rematch is in order.
I hope we get one too.
He is just that good. He got the nod against JMM, okay so lets say he lost twice? He still beat Cotto!
I can not think of any boxer who is faster, more aggressive, and hits harder at this time? Floyd knows this and this is why he is running away from Manny. Floyd is unbelievably talented, but he survives off of athleticism and he has very little heart. Floyd refuses to fight boxers who are capable of hurting him. Manny will fight anyone big or small. In the past 8 years, Manny has developed into one of the best boxers in recent history. One should note that his performances have become much better after he began training with Freddy, better to the point that he is now one of the greats in boxing history!
This dude has been ducking PAUL WILLIAMS AND YOU ALL KNOW IT. BOB ARUM CAME OUT WITH THE EXCUSE THAT HE WOULDN'T DRAW ENOUGH MONEY. I DON'T GIVE A CRAP! IF YOUR LYING AZZ TRAINER IS GOING TO RUN AROUND ALONG WITH THE MEDIA AND CALL YOU THE POUND FOR POUND BEST THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE DUCKING THAT MAN! COWARD!
Well, Manny is a fraud, we all see Marquez winning not only this one but the previous fights against paquiao as well. Las Vegas... the house never loses :)






Literary Geisha 14 months ago
thought-provoking... i like it! :)