Picking and choosing-The Floyd Mayweather Record
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Floyd Mayweather Jr may be one of the best boxers of the best 30 years, in fact if you listen to Floyd himself you may even be told he's the greatest ever. Though as with any fighter if you look deep enough you can rip his record to shreds. Whether fans like it or not Floyd's recent record is relatively poor, not garbage but pretty poor. The self proclaimed “Money” may be brash, confident and arrogant, happy to tell the world how he'd beat any one, though of course the problem is he hasn't faced everyone. Though this isn't a look at just who he's not fought, but also who he has fought who have been a combination of past it old men, smaller men or men who were struggling to make weight. He's been clever and well managed through his whole career.
Below Light Welterweight, very impressive
Every fighter gets easy fights to ease
them into the professional ranks, so we'll ignore those and start
from when Floyd first became a world champion. Floyd first world
title was the WBC super featherweight title, so I've broken his
career into 2 bits. The fights from 130-135 and then one for Floyd's
fights at 140 and up.
At 130 Floyd beat the very good Genaro
Hernandez to take the title, although it would be Chicanito it's not
a fight you can complain about in the slightest. Hernandez was 38-1-1
and was only 32 with his only loss coming to Oscar De La Hoya. In
fact at 130 it's difficult to fault Floyd's record in terms of who he
fought, though he did face popular journeyman Emanuel Augustus in
2000. It was Floyd's first fight at 135 and Augustus, a popular
fighter due to his unique style was 22-16-4 entering the bout.
One
questionable bout around the turn of the millennium however is one of
the most impressive statistically though also one which is covered
over for it's flaw. Diego Corrales was 33-0 though had been all but
going up to Lightweight then had to make Super Featherweight.
Corrales struggled to make the weight and was subsequently badly
beaten being sent to the canvas 5 times before finally being stopped.
The win was a good one, though Corrales was drained at the weight and
it showed.
2002 saw Mayweather in his most controversial fight
to date, his first Lightweight title fight in which he faced Jose
Luis Castillo. Castillo out landed Mayweather (4 to 3) at a better
rate as well (40% to 35%), the power punch stats favoured Castillo
(173 to 66) and it appeared to many that Castillo had won the fight.
HBO's Harold Lederman had it 115-111 to Castillo, yet all 4 judges
gave a clear decision to Mayweather (116-111 and 115-111 twice all
for Floyd). Although the rematch would see Floyd winning clearly the
first fight between the two will always be remembered as “the fight
Floyd lost”.
After the 2 Castillo fights Floyd fought
Victoriano Sosa (35-2-2), his record looked pretty though deep down
it was padded and he'd lost his only meaningful fight to Paul
Spadafora. In the previous 1.5 years Sosa had gone 4-0-1 with
opponents having a combined record of 64-45-6. Two of those 5 Sosa
fights had been with Luis Sosa (18-15-3 and 19-19-3 the second time)
and 2 had been against fighters with out a win. This is a fight that
really needs to be seen as a poor opponent one of very few that Floyd
had at this stage of his career.
140 and above, holes begin to appear
Mayweather would debut at 140 in 2004
and face DeMarcus “Chop Chop Corley”. Corley would generally be a
decent opponent though was coming in from a 10 month lay off after a
loss to Zab Judah. The win, a wide decision on all 3 cards, saw
Corley dropped twice and it had a reason, it was a fight that saw
Mayweather in line for a WBC title shot. Though oddly Floyd's second
fight at 140 was also a WBC Eliminator, this time against Henry
Bruseles. Bruseles was 5-3-1 in his previous 9 (including a 3rd
round TKO loss to Roberto Ortega) and although some may have called
it a lure to get Cotto in the ring it was nothing more than cynical
and intelligent match making.
Floyd's 3rd and
final fight at 140 was one of his greatest performances in his
career. Aturo “Thunder” Gatti was a true boxing name and this was
to be Floyd's first fight on Pay Per View, “Thunder and Lightning”.
Although Gatti was the bigger name Floyd was the favourite (around
3/11) and it showed as Floyd dominated the popular but poor Gatti.
Gatti's wars had caught up with him and although he took a 39-6
record to the ring that night he would only win one of his final 4
(including the Mayweather bout) to retire 40-9. Gatti had been a
smaller man who had won 6 of his previous 8 , though had walked
through hell in the infamous Gatti v Ward series.
Mayweather's
record at 140 misses out fighters like Judah, Kostya Tszyu and Ricky
Hatton, who were all a threat between 2000-2005. Instead Mayweather
would jump up to Welterweight and make his debut there by facing
Sharmba Mitchell. Mitchell had only fought once at 147 himself and
had been stopped 4 times in his previous 60 contests, twice by Kostya
(including 2 fights earlier) and once down at Lightweight. Basically
a 34 year old Mitchell was far from a good opponent for Floyd, though
as Mayweather's career went on it became a common problem.
Zab
“Super” Judah was a fight signed with Judah to have a tune up
fight against Carlos Baldomir, few expected Judah to have any
problems though that's all he had as he dropped a decision to
Baldomir who thoroughly dominated the Brooklyn born fighter. Judah's
fight with Mayweather was marred with incidents which saw corner men
from both fighters camps entering the ring and chaos ensuing, though
what it seemed to do was prove that Judah's career was on a definite
slide.
Mayweather would beat Baldomir next. Although it's a
fight that made “sense” the way Floyd did it was dull and sleep
inducing with fans leaving before the end and those that stayed
generally started to boo. Mayweather claiming he'd retire after one
more bout didn't help him get fans on side though the next fight was
seen as the most difficult of his career. Floyd was moving up to 154
to face Oscar De La Hoya. Although the fight, like the Corrales
fight, is often celebrated as one of Floyd's best wins, it needs to
be remembered that this fight was questionable for several reasons.
Oscar was 34, had been inactive for a year, in fact Oscar had fought
just 6 rounds in over 2 and a half years and could easily have been
going in 1-3 since September 2003. Although Floyd out landed Oscar
it's worth noting that had Jerry Roth scored the final round the same
as fellow judges Tom Kaczmarek and Chuck Giampa the fight would have
been a draw.
Mayweather would drop back down to 147 to face
unbeaten British boxer Ricky Hatton. Hatton had fought once
previously at 147 and been lucky to escape with an unbeaten record
against Luiz Collazo. Many fans felt that Collazo had done enough to
take the decision, though it was the fact Hatton was out on his feet
at the end of the bout that left questions over this bout. Hatton
hadn't been the same fighter he once was, he had struggled with the
crude novice Juan Urango, as well as Collazo. Mayweather struggled in
the early going though quickly got the upper hand and stopped the
British fighter in round 10.
After taking a break from the
sport Mayweather returned in 2009 to face Juan Manuel Marquez.
Marquez, a brilliant technician and amazing fighter at Lightweight
had to go up 2 weight classes to face Mayweather and Floyd's size
dwarfed over the little Mexican. Marquez had little success and was
dropped on the way to losing a wide decision, since then Marquez has
dropped back to 135 where he has continued to be impressive. Floyd's
most recent fight was against another legendary name of the sport,
“Sugar” Shane Mosley. Mosley, like the other big wins for Floyd,
was a win with caveats written all over it. Mosley was 38, had been
out of the ring for 16 months and had looked poor in all but one of
his previous 3 fights. This wasn't the Sugarman of the late 1990's
but the the early 10's and it showed.
Although Mayweather is
doubtlessly one of the masters of the fine art of hit and don't get
hit, it's hard to look over his record with out thinking many of his
wins are more about getting names on it than proving he's the best.
He seems unwilling to fight prime contenders or the top fighters
at their prime for a while and when he's been able to get an uneven
playing field he's seemed happy to take it.
Opponent
| "Complaint"
|
|---|---|
Diego Corrales
| Was weight drained
|
Jose Luis Castillo I
| Poor decision/Castillo robbed
|
Victoriano Sosa
| Paper record
|
DeMarcus Corley
| Coming in on a loss
|
Henry Bruseles
| 5-3-1 coming in
|
Aturo Gatti
| Naturally smaller, was shop worn
|
Sharmba Mitchell
| Had been stopped several times, wasn't a true 147lb'er
|
Zab Judah
| Coming in on a loss
|
Carlos Baldomir
| Poor opponent, poor fight
|
Oscar De La Hoya
| Old, inactive and had looked awful in fights going in
|
Ricky Hatton
| Smaller, had looked poor at 147
|
Juan Manuel Marquez
| Much smaller, Floyd failed to make contracted weight
|
Shane Mosley
| Old, inactive and hadn't looked good in a while (barring a win over Margarito)
|
Should Floyd have tried harder to have cemented himself at 140 and 147?
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I agree with this...now do one about Pac..Pac ducked Mark Johnson, tim austyn, the 38 yr old Mosley that Floyd "cherrypicked", Julio Diaz, Joan Guzman...the list continues...Pac cherrypicked everyone he fought at ww except Cotto...he ducked Berto, and Marquez...saying they were small draws so he could fight slow, cotton fisted Margarito who had a hand wrapping scandal, and he waited for marques to turn 40 before he fought him,....now he's fighting bradley who is not on this level and pac will KO him in 3 rounds..cant wait for you to do one on pac
Also, Pac has more of a reputation for fighting past prime opponents and big names...Floyd was always fighting number 1, 2, &3..all arum fighters fight past prime fighters, even Floyd when he was with Arum...Im ready for you to do one on pac...all of his opponents are washed up, over the hill, or coming off losses...even his biggest win against erik morales was comming off a mismatch loss to zahir...please do one
Pac's whole legacy is built on cherrypicking...watch Freddie explain how the pick and choose opponents http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEnPEz_rSoU


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Guy Hidenthai 5 months ago
Hi SG, Ok im going to give you your first comment on this hub. I have been a big boxing fan since ali/clay fought liston, yeh im an old kid. to give you idea, i picked frazier over ali in first fight due to long lay off and frazier being primed and tough as nails. i picked ali to win the rest ..hey it was a learning experience. I won $10. on duran sugar#1 because guy gave me 2-1 odds. then i picked sugar because he is great and he learns his lessons. I give you big thumbs up on your hub. and i agree with your total assessment. hes real real good but he is also very careful picking fights not at all like hearns, sugar, duran, hagler. unless he gets into a few wars w some great primed fighters soon he will go down as a self hyped fighter who never really got tested by fire like ali/frazier. and yes marquez is really nice fighter. pacman wont win boxing match w floyd. he has to throw caution to the wind and beat the crap out of him. he has to be unpredictable and not step back to pull his shorts up..this is nervous thing and floyd will look for it. pacman if he is smart can lure floyd by acting like he is going to pull his trunks up then wham. he has to be that tricky.otherwise leave trunks alone. when he flurries he has to throw more then 3 punches if he still has good balance. marquez made him look awkward and countered him beautifully. i thought he won. it might be good idea if pacman makes $$$ come to him. this way he will have better balance w his footwork rather then chasing $$$ around all night.